Comments on: Don’t videotape the PoPo, you may lose your camera http://ourpdx.com/2008/09/dont-videotape-the-popo-you-may-lose-your-camera/ Collaborative coverage of news and events, with a focus on community. Mon, 16 Aug 2010 21:33:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: dieselboi http://ourpdx.com/2008/09/dont-videotape-the-popo-you-may-lose-your-camera/comment-page-1/#comment-1211 dieselboi Tue, 23 Sep 2008 04:35:19 +0000 http://ourpdx.net/?p=851#comment-1211 Jason, Thanks for the comments. Ok, so if we're videotaping, say it loud enough for the audio to pick up that your video taping. That way, it doesn't matter if the cop heard or not because it was recorded. I love Ameriker. Jason,
Thanks for the comments. Ok, so if we’re videotaping, say it loud enough for the audio to pick up that your video taping. That way, it doesn’t matter if the cop heard or not because it was recorded.

I love Ameriker.

]]> By: Jason McArthur http://ourpdx.com/2008/09/dont-videotape-the-popo-you-may-lose-your-camera/comment-page-1/#comment-1210 Jason McArthur Tue, 23 Sep 2008 04:31:42 +0000 http://ourpdx.net/?p=851#comment-1210 <a href='#comment-1179' rel="nofollow">@dieselboi</a> - That's beside the point. They have to be informed, not by the fact the devices is present, but be informed verbally that they are being recorded. They can't tell you to not be recorded, but they have to be informed, per the law. So, break out cellphone/cameraphone, announce and record away. Notice how the Joe Nobody case, the police officer made the seizure _after_ the incident has taken place. So, just announce, done and done. @dieselboi – That’s beside the point. They have to be informed, not by the fact the devices is present, but be informed verbally that they are being recorded. They can’t tell you to not be recorded, but they have to be informed, per the law. So, break out cellphone/cameraphone, announce and record away. Notice how the Joe Nobody case, the police officer made the seizure _after_ the incident has taken place.

So, just announce, done and done.

]]> By: Jason McArthur http://ourpdx.com/2008/09/dont-videotape-the-popo-you-may-lose-your-camera/comment-page-1/#comment-1209 Jason McArthur Tue, 23 Sep 2008 04:24:54 +0000 http://ourpdx.net/?p=851#comment-1209 Ended that short... They have to be informed, if not, and conduct their business without being informed otherwise, it gives them the right to confiscate the audio. Unreal, knowing that everything they do should be expected to be recorded, but they need to be reminded by the flawed laws in place. Ended that short… They have to be informed, if not, and conduct their business without being informed otherwise, it gives them the right to confiscate the audio. Unreal, knowing that everything they do should be expected to be recorded, but they need to be reminded by the flawed laws in place.

]]> By: Jason McArthur http://ourpdx.com/2008/09/dont-videotape-the-popo-you-may-lose-your-camera/comment-page-1/#comment-1208 Jason McArthur Tue, 23 Sep 2008 04:21:58 +0000 http://ourpdx.net/?p=851#comment-1208 So apparently, this case is being discussed on OPB's Talk Out Loud right now. My take is, as long as you inform the police their audio is being recorded, they cannot seize said device. They can't take the device away or disagree, they just need to be informed. So apparently, this case is being discussed on OPB’s Talk Out Loud right now. My take is, as long as you inform the police their audio is being recorded, they cannot seize said device. They can’t take the device away or disagree, they just need to be informed.

]]> By: dieselboi http://ourpdx.com/2008/09/dont-videotape-the-popo-you-may-lose-your-camera/comment-page-1/#comment-1179 dieselboi Fri, 19 Sep 2008 23:47:07 +0000 http://ourpdx.net/?p=851#comment-1179 <a href='#comment-1167' rel="nofollow">@Jason McArthur</a> - There isn't enough information in the Beaverton article for me to know if these are similar. When I read it, it implies the cell phone used was not visible and the people being recorded truly didn't know they were being recorded. With the incident this past week, the video camera was in the officers face and the officer looked at it repeatedly. @Jason McArthur – There isn’t enough information in the Beaverton article for me to know if these are similar. When I read it, it implies the cell phone used was not visible and the people being recorded truly didn’t know they were being recorded. With the incident this past week, the video camera was in the officers face and the officer looked at it repeatedly.

]]> By: Jason McArthur http://ourpdx.com/2008/09/dont-videotape-the-popo-you-may-lose-your-camera/comment-page-1/#comment-1167 Jason McArthur Fri, 19 Sep 2008 02:13:11 +0000 http://ourpdx.net/?p=851#comment-1167 The same thing happened back July in a Beaverton bowling alley: http://www.oregonlive.com/washingtoncounty/index.ssf/2008/08/police_arrest_man_for_cell_pho.html The same thing happened back July in a Beaverton bowling alley: http://www.oregonlive.com/washingtoncounty/index.ssf/2008/08/police_arrest_man_for_cell_pho.html

]]> By: Aaron http://ourpdx.com/2008/09/dont-videotape-the-popo-you-may-lose-your-camera/comment-page-1/#comment-1163 Aaron Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:35:35 +0000 http://ourpdx.net/?p=851#comment-1163 I understand the need for privacy laws, but a law restricting the recording of audio in a public space seems to be a bit overboard. When it comes to photography, the law allows for taking photos in public without restriction. There are restrictions on photos where someone would have a "resonable expectation of privacy" (I could be in trouble for using a telephoto lens to peer over your fence and into your bedroom window, for example) but on a public street no such expectation of privacy exists. I'm not sure why it should be any different for audio recordings. I understand the need for privacy laws, but a law restricting the recording of audio in a public space seems to be a bit overboard. When it comes to photography, the law allows for taking photos in public without restriction. There are restrictions on photos where someone would have a “resonable expectation of privacy” (I could be in trouble for using a telephoto lens to peer over your fence and into your bedroom window, for example) but on a public street no such expectation of privacy exists. I’m not sure why it should be any different for audio recordings.

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