Update: It’s been suggested in the comments to this post that I ought to be conducting myself differently (I’m moving that discussion over here – don’t respond there, please!):
When you own and operate a site, weather (sic) or not you physically edit posts, you are the site’s publisher. As such you can’t drop that hat and post ‘like the rest of us’. Everything you post on the site has the full weight and authority of being the site’s publisher.
Does that mean I’m not allowed to express strong opinions? That disagreement needs to be hammered out in other private venues first? I’d love to hear what you have to say — and by you, I mean authors, readers and commenters. Let’s do this so that all can see, shall we?
My first real job in New York City was at The Village Voice back in the early 90’s. I managed to wangle my way into a job as the first Online Services Manager, no less. (This was pre-web, pre-Craigslist — I convinced my boss that the Voice’s cash cow classifieds market was in trouble & they’d better figure this whole ‘On-Line’* stuff out.)
Our first venture was an online conference on the text-based online service ECHO (where members paid 20 bucks a month to hang out in what was billed as a ‘virtual salon.’) I pulled some strings and/or traded some favors to get a 286 computer and a phone line installed in the editorial department (they were on a closed proprietary mainframe publishing system at the time.) I used that lure — plus free Internet access (all the email, gopher, Usenet newsgroups and FTP access you could want!) and one-on-one training from Yours Truly — to get writers and editors online.
My brilliant idea? Create two discussion topics: What I Love About the Village Voice; What I Hate About the Village Voice.
Predictably, the comments in the ‘I Hate…’ item outnumbered the ‘I Love’ item by, oh, three to one within a week. Even more predictably, the writers and editors stayed away in droves.
My boss, though (former editor, now President/Publisher) — well, he read every single comment. Laughed with me at some of the more inane excuses offered up by myopic writers. And saw the Craigslist juggernaut coming down the train tracks, even before it had a first name attached to it. And I learned from him that when you ask for feedback, you’d better damned well listen to it, take it seriously, and thank them for sharing — even if they’ve just told you your firstborn is stunningly ugly and a disgrace to humankind.
Why the long lead-up to a simple request for feedback? Well, OurPDX has been going for just over five months now. We’re a newcomer to the local group blogging scene, except — not really. Some of us had been group blogging elsewhere in PDX, others have been around the blogging scene for a while. To make sure we weren’t just reinventing the wheel, though, we cherry-picked some fresh new voices to spice up the mix a bit. We thought we were doing Just Fine. And then we read some of the recent comments…
So we’ve all donned our asbestos suits, doused the torches, and want to honestly hear from you: How are we doing? What do you love about OurPDX? What do you hate? What do you wish we’d do differently? (If you’d rather not share publicly, feel free to email me directly: betsy at ourpdx dot net)
* The signs by the elevator told people that the ‘On-Line Department’ — a department of, um, one — was on the 4th Floor. I cringed every single time I looked at it…
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I discovered metblogs through the one in New Orleans during Katrina. It, frankly, told me more about what was going on in NO than the mainstream media. I was a Portland journalist at the time and saw that Portland was on Metblogs. So I checked it out and liked it at first, until the redesign, which I hated. I was glad to see the invention of OurPDX.
I think OurPDX has a lot of great stuff — I would like to see more of the listed contributors on a more regular basis. Because the group as a whole is pretty diverse, as are the topics.
I don’t know what Brewcaster’s issue is. I like his stuff on Metblogs and would love to see him here.
Plus I learn a lot about Portland from this group — things I don’t see elsewhere.
Dear Betsy,
When we started this whole venture, it was so you could have a place to vent, as well as focus on our fair city. There were no content restrictions, other than to make it somehow about Portland. Quotas? Nope. Censorship? (Well, I pixielated the nipples of the Naked Bike Rider, and you moved her under the jump, but that was to keep Sexual Harassment Panda from visiting the workplace!)Point being, this was meant to be a free-speech arena.
Remember when I deleted Daniel Day Douchebag? (How ya doin’, 3D?)While I doubt he cared, it caused an internal shit-storm amongst us about who’d be allowed to say what. And, upon further review, you were right. And feisty troll Mr Douchebag drank our milkshake. HAND!
Bottom line, it’s our playhouse and we should be able to say what we want. People are welcome to disagree; that’s what comments are for. If we don’t agree, we will tell them so. It’s called discussion.
I’m just grateful I have this forum.
CC
Betsy- I’ve been reading your posts since the Metroblogging Portland days. Please don’t allow a few detractors to discourage you from posting what you like and commenting on others’ posts. As far as I know, there aren’t any set rules for blogs and what a publisher can and can’t do on what is, basically, their own website. When it comes to this sort of thing a blog publisher shouldn’t be held to the same standards as, say, a publisher at Time Magazine or a daily newspaper. A good blog facilitates a discussion and all parties, management included, should be welcome at the table if they so choose to dive into the fray.
I like what you guys have done here. I’m glad that both you and Dieselboi got through that fiasco over on MB and emerged with something new and as prolific as it once was. I’d like to see more “out and about” posts. I’ve always dug his cell phone photos of random stuff and events around town, for example. Also: more Porn Shop Diaries please. I enjoyed those as a sort of replacement for WW’s Night Cabbie column, which sadly went defunct again a few months ago.
Comment on whatever you like. If someone doesn’t like it, they should suck it. ; D
There is no debate that blogging has no rules. But if this is truly meant to be a no rules playground where people can come read if they want to or not, than this post and comments should be deleted.
I have a feeling the site and authors do have some sort of concern about how their “audience” feels about the site.
Let me back up and state the obvious:
These are MY opinions, and mine only. I do not speak for anyone else, and therefore should taken with the same magnitude.
So is there or is there not a target audience? Should the authors care? Should anyone care? Again, the fact that this post exists, makes me believe someone does at least a little.
I like tech. I work in tech. I like reading about tech, but I don’t like spending my nights and weekend talking and doing tech(outside of using it a little).
So why do I read blogs? Or Portland blogs? I read bikeportland, because I am a bike commuter. I read pdxpipeline because I have no kids and like to know about events and things to do in PDX. I subscribe to flickr PDX pools to see pictures people take around Portland.
I started reading metblogs because it seemed to be a great “all-in-one” site about anything I might care about when it comes to Portland. The posts were interesting and created a lot of dialogue with the comments. I also felt it was a great place for more obscure happenings and news events you won’t get anyplace else. Much like the before mentioned “Man about town” type stuff.
Here is where I see this site failing(again, for things I like)
The posts seem a little more personally based. Filled with a lot of storytelling of what happened to the author, loosely connected to a Portland topic.
I am all for an authors voice and style, but I find a lot of the posts battling with themselves between being a storytelling, and an informational piece.
Things like Porn Shop diaries are awesome. You know what they are. A story, a great story, well written and entertaining.
I apologize to Dieselboi, I had forgotten about another post I enjoyed on here. The day the Green Dragon/Rogue thing happened, his article was the first I had read. I do love beer, but I don’t read a lot of Beer blogs. That was one of the first times I felt I got a great informational/newsish piece out of OurPDX.
Second thing about getting comments and return visits, the layout of the site. I feel the layout a little odd and not conducive to return visitors who might comment, follow comments, etc. Of course most of us know how to use RSS readers and don’t mind numerous emails about follow-ups, but again, maybe the target audience likes an easy way to return to the site and see about comments? The “front page” I believe, needs to keep more articles viewable… but maybe I am doing it wrong somehow.
I could ramble about colors and themes, but I will save that drivel, I am not a graphic artist.
And lastly, I remember reading someone’s rules about blogging. I think it said something about positive “attaboy” comments are boring. Negativity can breed great discussion. I just hope people don’t get their feelings hurt. This is the internet, you gotta wear thick jeans out here.
I know this was not the best example of coherence or English grammer, but I am in a race to get to Cup and Saucer before it closes.
Thank you guys for doing this stuff. I know it takes work, and no pay, but I feel a good dialogue in comments to be a good pay off. I always enjoyed getting the feeling that people were actually reading my stuff and reacting to it enough to take the time to type.
Again, I wish you all luck.
“When you own and operate a site, weather (sic) or not you physically edit posts, you are the site’s publisher. As such you can’t drop that hat and post ‘like the rest of us’. Everything you post on the site has the full weight and authority of being the site’s publisher.”
Well, actually, that’s not true.
The above comment seems more a projection of what the above reader wants and perhaps views OurPDX to be, rather than what it is. Lack of editorial input by Betsy would be a decision on the part of the publisher/editorial board etc. In this case that would be Betsy. It’s her site, her playground, her rules. Neither decision is wrong or unethical in new media, especially in community blogging run by one person which I see this site as. This is especially true given the non-commercial nature of OurPDX.net. In journalism, the “wall” as it is referred to, between the publisher, marketing/ad departments and the writers is there to keep advertising from influencing content. Since this site has no advertising, the point is moot.
The decision would be whether OurPDX publisher/admin/editor (AKA Betsy) decides to take a more hands off/neutral stance or not – puts a policy in place and sticks to it. However, that’s not the approach Betsy or OurPDX has chosen. Once again, this decision is neither unethical nor against the new media/blogging grain. A good comparison would be The Huffington Post (www.huffingtonpost.com) vs. New York Times, where Ariana Huffington weighs in daily with her opinions. Even blogs owned by professional media (such as the New Orleans Gambit Weekly http://www.blogofneworleans.com allow their publisher and editor to comment on posts). The issue really is transparency – stating who you are with real name, etc. when commenting, and Betsy is doing that. It is always assumed that when one is writing a blog comment it is their own opinion. If OurPDX.net wants to make this really clear, then in the “about us” section, simply add a caveat stating something like, “the opinions of the publisher and contributors in posts and comments is their own and not the opinion of OurPDX.net as a whole,” or some such thing.
The Knight Center for Digital Media http://www.knightdigitalmediacenter.org/, as well as Cyberjournalist.net and several other blogging/ethics oriented websites have guidelines and lots of discussion on this topic if you want to see the mass opinion of others in new media (both from community/non-profit websites, and professional/commercial sites). The reason I know about this discussion is that it has come up a few times in my professional work.
Regardless, in my professional opinion (having been working in journalism, communications, media and now new and social media since I was 16) is that Betsy certainly is in the clear to express her opinion here, and I personally welcome it.
Betsy – Oh my, how do these things happen? Oh yeah, that’s right we’re human, and we have the right as US citezens to free speech. Just because one person disagrees with a post you wrote, does not mean you should be silenced, edited, or censored in any way – especially if it is as Cosmic Charlie says, your playground, no rules. It’s yours, do what you want.
I do think now would be a great opportunity to look at this blog and see if it fits within what you created it for. Why did you create it? As it sits now, does that mission match what you have now? In a way it is like a brand: once in a while it’s a good investment of time to reassess and polish.
I agree with Brandon: “I’d like to see more “out and about” posts. I’ve always dug his cell phone photos of random stuff and events around town, for example.” To me, that would be a great aspect to bring back if possible. I would have to look through the archives to really get an idea of how Portland-focused the entries are (at the moment I have no idea.)
Whatever the outcome, you’ll still have newbie in your corner, because, after all, I support my community and you are a part of it whether I disagree with a blog entry or not. Keep on kick ass, and making your awesome bread!
What I find incredibly ironic is that this site is called “Our PDX Network” yet it seems to be anything but that.
Betsy, you said on another post something to the effect of “I’ll move them without notice cause I’m bossy like that.”
That statement, statements in the past, and other actions on this site make it sound more like “Bety’s PDX Network” to me. Which is fine, but don’t call it “Our” network when it clearly isn’t.
Finally, as an outside observer I have to be honest with you. This post of yours and communications of yours in the past read like you are saying “look at my resume, look where I’ve worked and what I’ve done, now listen to me”.
Not-so-subtle resume mentions and name dropping don’t go far with me and I suspect they don’t with others. You may not be doing this intentionally but you should know that at least 1 person took it that way.
I don’t know any of the authors here in person, although I’ve emailed with Betsy a couple of times. So I have no skin in this game.
Still, I don’t understand what the issue is here.
You like the blog, you read it. You don’t like it, you don’t read it.
It sounds to me like Brewcaster felt the tech post was too much like his day job. OK, ignore that post. Better yet, join up and add your voice to this blog. I’d certainly enjoy hearing it (you’re the Oklahoman, right? I’m also a former midwesterner and enjoyed your perspective on Portland at metblogs).
Having said that, I’d like to see more of the contributors here contribute on a more frequent basis.
As far as Metblogs went, it really didn’t get that many comments except on a few posts — although comments were growing. But once the redesign kicked in, it got VERY few — and not just in Portland. I used to be a regular Metblog reader — anytime there was a big story nationwide or worldwide, I’d go to Metblog in the city/country involved and find out what the people on the ground were saying. It was very informative, until they went to the registration system and also apparently pissed off most of their writers for what reasons I don’t know. What I do know, most of the then current writers left and comments just died, which made it irrelevant and just more noise in the blog world.
When the posts here are about Portland issues, there are plenty of comments. If the powers that be want clues about what interests your readers, take a look at what engenders the most comments and ask your writers to take that into account.
But I gotta ask: what the hell is wrong with storytelling? I like stories.
Ahh, I finally went back and read all the comments to Geoff K’s tech piece and I obviously misconstrued what Brewcaster was saying — he actually liked the discussion, I think.
Anyway, I apologize for getting it wrong.
But I still don’t understand why everybody’s panties are in a twist and why one post has resulted in a referendum on OurPDX.
With that, peace out.
Thanks, everyone for the comments. Keep them coming!
Just a few brief clarifications:
@jmartens – the ‘bossy’ bit was a joke, dude. I’d been trying to redirect the conversation *back* to the original topic several times already (both privately and publicly.) Obviously it fell flat for you/left a bad taste in your mouth, and for that, I’m sorry.
I agree that more pictures are needed and I don’t get that post on top, but I have a wee mac with a tiny screen so, whatever.
You guys are hitting your stride. There are some great bloggers in the contributors list.
And take it easy on the Brew.
Hi all. Thank you for coming out and having a discussion. I’m a cofounder here, so if anyone has suggestions or feedback or critique, I am willing to listen – email me at dieselboi@gmail.com.
When people ask me about OurPDX, I tell them it is an ongoing story about Portland. That’s it. It could be my story or Wizardboot’s story or Lizzy’s story or anyone’s story. And each of our stories are different. Yes, we announce events. Yes, we review restaurants. Yes, we have strong opinions. Yet we’re not an event site, nor a restaurant review site or an opinion site. We’re all of that and that is what I personally love about what we have all built. And when I say all, I mean all of the authors, our readers, our commentors and others in Portland who have helped make this site a success.
I think we’re doing great and am happy to be here. Yes, we’ve had some public drama this weekend, yet I think that is part of life and yes Christian, it happens because we’re human. Cheers.
Betsy can call it Our PDX, Portland Tech and Balls (great article Cosmic Charlie), or Betsy’s House of Dancing and Congeals – I don’t give a drunken poisoned rat’s ass. From everything I’ve read here, it’s always about “us” as a whole – “us” meaning those of us who live in local neighborhoods, get outraged at changing local landmarks, and get all teary-eyed when a local business closes for the third time.
What I enjoy and and respect as a writer here is that the owner/editor of this site in my admittedly limited experience never, ever in seriousness squashes contributor thoughts, ideas, suggestions, or whims to protect the “OurPDX brand” (as if) – which isn’t the case elsewhere. She encourages us to play by a few loose rules to keep some sense of cohesiveness, which quite frankly saves many of us from ourselves (read one of my self-indulgent posts and you’ll see what I mean). We are all free to come and go as we please, to write what suits us within those loose guidelines, and express an opinion no matter how out of accord with acceptable thought that it might be.
On disclaimers, I sincerely hope that we never, ever, have to drop in a defeated note like “the opinions of the publisher and contributors in posts and comments is their own and not the opinion of OurPDX.net as a whole” as Lizzy pointed out has been the fallback at other sites (Thank you, Lizzy, for such an informative comment).
Because statements like that do not have to be made here is precisely why I’m drawn to this site. I do not want safe rounded corners, nerf-world editing, and plastic cups for the patrons for fear of a glass shard or two. In other words, if the swings at this park aren’t safe enough for your kids, then go to another park.
My *personal* target audience is people who likewise do not expect hospital food prose, who may or may not get what I think is funny, but who enjoy reading something that I’ve worked hard to craft. It’s a risk, but worth it to me.
And I second the vote on storytelling. If I want a news site, I’ll go elsewhere. I hang out here for the colorful, sand-in-the-bisque, barnacled-gelcoat of PDX, not to find out what the AAA discount is for wiping one’s unmentionables with soilent toilet paper at the latest hipster joint in the Pearl.
I’m looking for quality writing and unique perspectives on where I live. And so far, I get that here. Simple as that.
Y’all are doing just fine!
I think because many of the authors are friends, are involved in many of the same ’scenes’, which includes hanging out at techie events like Beer and Blog, Ignite, etc. – that when one of those events take place there are lots of posts and comments, lots of references to each other – that to someone outside the scene it may come across as cliquey. But knowing many of you myself, I know that is far from the truth. That any stranger walking into one of your Meetups, commenting or what have you, will be welcomed and made to feel at home.
And as far as diversity on the site and doing what it’s “supposed to” – there are of course some authors I like to read more than others. But that’s simply because of similar or dissimilar tastes with those authors.
Keep up the good work!
(This post was temporarily held for review. It has now been published in its original form; we’d ask that you refrain from reacting to it as the drama has now receded, please! Finally, we know this may not make OurPDX look good – but we’re also committed to not deleting or editing comments without extreme provocation, per our comment policy. Thanks.)
@Jmartens –
Since you felt the necessity to post multiple negative comments about Betsy I question your motives for participating in this discussion at all. Is it to help? If so where is the constructive critiscm instead you rely on distorting her statements or just taking the worst possible interpretation to suit your own point of view.
As for you Geoff, for all of the myriad Portland blogging sites you write for your tone here seems to be a weird melange of “Happy to be here” but at the same time smug and self-righteous. If what you write is truly how you feel so be it, coloring it with a spray of fake humility does damage to the writing as a whole though. I’m also confused as to why you feel the need to write in so many different places. Dilution of brand is what kills many a endeavor.
To be perfectly frank as someone who experienced the insanity of the dotcom boom and bust firsthand (yay kazmo) I have to say that the Portland Tech scene is about as dissimilar as it could possibly be as is Ourpdx as a whole to the way the complainants have presented it. I don’t see Betsy as having a heavy hand. She’s in fact nearly zen in her ability to prune the chaff from here. Portland truly seems for the most part to have figured out inter business collaboration is the only methodology that is working. We’re currently more stable than other tech cities because of our cooperative strengths.
The fact that disparate viewpoints are succeeding so well (most of the time) on ourpdx is proof of Portland being a melting pot (unless you don’t like coffee or beer, in that case go to hell).
I’d highly recommend the negative readers who posted here go read the story of the “blind men and the elephant”.
(This post was temporarily held for review. It has now been published in its original form; we’d ask that you refrain from reacting to it as the drama has now receded, please! Finally, we know this may not make OurPDX look good – but we’re also committed to not deleting or editing comments without extreme provocation, per our comment policy. Thanks.)
Chris, this thread here has nothing to do with me. Betsy asked how the site was doing. I got admonished for posting feedback on how the site was run in that thread, so I don’t see how posting feedback on my thread here is much different.
I’m sorry you didn’t see what I said as sincere. You must be reading into things because I was neither smug nor self-righteous. I expressed very genuine affection for the tech community and many people who responded to that piece responded to that.
I’m frankly surprised that your admonish me for freely contributing to so many Portland sites and it’s clear by your comments that you really have little idea about me or what I do.
(This post was temporarily held for review. It has now been published in its original form; we’d ask that you refrain from reacting to it as the drama has now receded, please! Finally, we know this may not make OurPDX look good – but we’re also committed to not deleting or editing comments without extreme provocation, per our comment policy. Thanks.)
@Geoff K -
As far as it goes, you are an author on this site yes? Therefore if I give feedback about ourpdx it would make sense that I offer feedback to the authors as well?
I’m not admonishing you for contributing to so many Portland sites (and in fact am giving feedback about the site with my statements). What I am admonishing you for is the fact that you are constantly reiterating that you write for many different places. Brand dilution is not healthy. Writing freely in many places is a good thing yes, talking about it repeatedly is not. I find it telling that your profile here links to onpdx but your onpdx site (which is YOUR site, not just “a place you write for”) does not link here. That smacks of blatant selfpromotion. Granted I may be off base since I’ve followed you on twitter for quite awhile and you don’t come off that way there.
I’m just freely giving my opinion of the way things appear to be here on ourpdx.
(This post was temporarily held for review. It has now been published in its original form; we’d ask that you refrain from reacting to it as the drama has now receded, please! Finally, we know this may not make OurPDX look good – but we’re also committed to not deleting or editing comments without extreme provocation, per our comment policy. Thanks.)
@Chris O’Rourke – Chris you’re just plain wrong. I actually link back here from several of the places I write for. The OurPDX link is on the right hand colum of On Portland…
Also I’ve mentioned that I write for several places exactly twice here on OurPDX both in the article giving a historical perspective.
Given what your saying, it really feels like either you’re being a sock puppet for @ahockley or driving a similar agenda.
In either case If you have problems with me or my writing, take it up with the sites owner, post feedback on I post I actually wrote or talk to me directly.
(This post was temporarily held for review. It has now been published in its original form; we’d ask that you refrain from reacting to it as the drama has now receded, please! Finally, we know this may not make OurPDX look good – but we’re also committed to not deleting or editing comments without extreme provocation, per our comment policy. Thanks.)
@Geoff K –
Lol I’ve been accused of lots of things, never a “sock puppet” for Aaron though. Since you follow me on twitter you should know I tend to have a reputation for being honest. That’s all I was doing here.
As for the sidelink on onpdx, ok that doesn’t explain why your profile doesn’t list it.
As I previously stated my feedback post was written specifically about what I gathered from reading through Ourpdx, not personal attacks. My agenda is to give feedback honestly and in the context of this site and how I (and others) perceive it.
As for mentioning it exactly twice, you mentioned it at least twice in comments alone. If you’re truly altruistic about writing for and about Portland cool, your defensive posture is making me lean towards hindsight justifying though. (again opinion offered on the context of this site).
As for directing me to post feedback in a place other than the post specifically written for feedback I guess I’m not grokking the entire point of this post then? I’ll happily discuss your writing with you anytime you’d like over coffee. I’m not (contrary to the way my comments have been interpreted) trying to start a fight or torture your puppies, just offering my opinion of the way you seem to be as it pertains to ourpdx.
(This post was temporarily held for review. It has now been published in its original form; we’d ask that you refrain from reacting to it as the drama has now receded, please! Finally, we know this may not make OurPDX look good – but we’re also committed to not deleting or editing comments without extreme provocation, per our comment policy. Thanks.)
Since I’ve been getting it from all ends (including via email and in the private writers forum) it’s hard not to jump in and be defensive. It’s disheartening to come under attack for posting something which was aimed at helping the discussion about the local community, and that’s unfortunately what’s happened.
Since this is bringing this thread way off topic. I think it’s best if the discussion returns to improving this site and not about what links I have in which profile.
Since I’m taking heat from a lot of sources I’m going to now go offline and deal with them directly. So Understand if I don’t respond to any further comments as I step back and deal with these unwelcome attacks.
I think everyone needs to take a minute to look at this.
PLEASE READ: I’m in an all-day meeting and haven’t even read the last 15+ comments. From what I understand, though – there’s a catfight brewing here. I’ve asked Dieselboi to step in to temporarily unapprove select comments until we’ve had a chance to review them.
I’d also urge you all to PLEASE please please take a deep breath, use your calming technique of choice, and/or step away from the keyboard.
Dammit. I just got RickRolled.
All, as some of you may have noticed, some comments have been removed from this thread at the request of Betsy and Geoff. I did the dirty deed. As Betsy stated, they will be reviewed later today and be put back if deemed appropriate. Apologies to those affected.
Update from Betsy: After review, the comments have all been restored, with a prefatory note from OurPDX.
Posts with a large number of wordy comments give me the creeps. Zoinks!
OK, now you all ARE sounding like a feuding clique — or sixth-grade girls, pick your poison. I’ve noticed that I am the only non-insider commenting here.
Who the hell cares who contributes to how many sites? I, as a reader, can keep track of that for myself and come to my own conclusion.
Please get over whatever snit you guys are having and get back to blogging about your opinions and your knowledge about our city.
Thanks,
one person in your anonymous public, whom none of you has ever met. As far as I know.
I am not a blogger I am a reader and sometime commenter. This is one of many blogs I enjoy reading during the week. It is not my blog and I do not feel that I have any right to tell the people who started and maintain this blog what they should write about or how they should administer this blog. The value for me is sheer entertainment; people write some extremely snarky comments, some thoughtful comments and some downright funny comments.
You all are doing a great job. One of the comments reminded you to stay true to whatever vision you had for this blog when you started. That is good advice. Keep up the good work.
As I tried to make abundantly clear in my comments, I was not attacking just offering honest opinions of how I perceived things to be. If it came off as attacking in nature it was not my intent (and was in fact crosspurposes to my stated intent).
I totally agree that comments should be filtered on occasion when warranted. That promotes a healthy environment conducive to greater community in nearly every case.
Glad you don’t disemvowel comments though. That’s an abomination to facillitating discourse. We shouldn’t all agree (lest we turn things into a grand echo chamber).
Due to the recent connection issues my initial comment stating this was eaten.
I also made a request for great amounts of “adult” topics since Porn Shop Diaries is one of my favorite reads here and since Portland is well known for having a large number of adult establishments I think it would be well received.
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